#271350 - 26 January, 2011 07:13 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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That is all we are missing from having a whole new game built by the community already, is it not?
and hacking and externalizing the existing JA2 engine will only get us so far anyways.  We cannot mod for ourselves, "we" are "old core" that must pass knowledge to younger minds and brains...coding-experienced people try (in vain i say) to resist "revolution" through "reforma". Hopefully virtual blood and stupidness will be the only victims of the engine change. A change in operating system caliber, so to say. 
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#272280 - 03 February, 2011 06:05 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Do I smell a hyped product that will eventually crash and burn? News!I think so. Reeks of garbage in so many ways. I smell 
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#273646 - 16 February, 2011 12:31 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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So they changed the name of the game, because they got a shit storm about not doing the remake in TB. Now they can say:"We never said it would be a remake, there isn't a '2' in the title." After all the protest against the PauseToGo system. Instead of changing it back to turnbase, they change the name of the game. Way to go Bit Composer... (I guess it's the cheaper option.) I posted the same remark on their 'brand new' forums. Let's see what they have to say... http://boards.jaggedalliance.com/index.p..._1947#entry1947(Probably nothing...)
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#273876 - 18 February, 2011 10:26 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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oh boy, this developement looks bad...
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#275200 - 06 March, 2011 04:16 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Here is a first look preview from GameSpot: http://gdc.gamespot.com/story/6302301/jagged-alliance-back-in-action-impressions-first-lookSeems that at least turn-based combat will be in still, and still based in Arulco. So no matter the name-change, it seems to be a remake of JA2. I just hope the charm of the game isn't lost. I loved the quirky mercs and their interactions with each other (which is a point that could use some further development). I just hope for the best.
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#275241 - 07 March, 2011 02:05 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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I like this: And just like before, the game will give you the choice to play these battles in real time (if you happen to be totally insane) or in turn-based mode (if you're sane). From what we can tell from our brief demonstration, Back in Action brings back all the elements of the classic tactical strategy game, including limited action points for each mercenary to spend each turn on movement, reloading, firing, throwing grenades, using explosives, patching up wounded teammates, and so on. If you happen to be carrying an automatic weapon, you can also still set your firing mode to single shot, burst, and full auto. Back in Action also uses Jagged Alliance 2's line-of-sight system, which displays each character's field of view as a triangular cone on the ground radiating outward, and just like in the original game, your best bet, at least early on, will be to stay low, stay out of sight, and pick off enemies one by one.
..but this makes me remain cautious: The early version of the game we saw was still using placeholder in-game assets
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#275318 - 08 March, 2011 02:05 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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The person who wrote this at GameSpot doesn't seem to know the original game that well, either - or have I been missing something all those years about Arulco being an island?
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#276905 - 30 March, 2011 09:45 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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#276942 - 31 March, 2011 11:07 AM
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Meh, the dude is talking way too fast, plus it is all poser nonsense, the words exist, but the way he uses them is unusual, not normally used, or the context does not fit, has no meaning. He is basically some guy who was given a demo and describes what he sees while utilizing a list of key points he got from bc. He says most of the stuff you see is not final, just a proof of concept for the bc dudes to check if they are on the right track. (Well, and I hope you don't need to empty 30 round magazines from 10 feet way at each other with no visible effect.)
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#276946 - 31 March, 2011 11:39 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Informations from the Video commentary: 1. This is early alpha footage, with basic UI and AI.  2. Basically there will be all options from JA2 like single shot, burst, crouching ... 3. The commentator is a guy who played JA2 and he says that the tactical P&G gameplay it okay, he had the at first a strange feeling but in the end, fights should be good. 4. You have to discover enemys on the map. In the lategame you may have an option to scan the minimap from an satellite. 5. There will be an action-timeline where you can manage your merc actions. 6. Merc with the suit is grunty.
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#276948 - 31 March, 2011 11:58 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Meh, the dude is talking way too fast, plus it is all poser nonsense, the words exist, but the way he uses them is unusual, not normally used, or the context does not fit, has no meaning. I can see your problem ... he basically tries very hard to be funny by using some kind of generic slang, unusual terms and stupid pronunciation ... it's the usual 'style' of that magazine. He is basically some guy who was given a demo and describes what he sees while utilizing a list of key points he got from bc. Yeah, my feeling as well ... it's all so congruent with the cr** bc normally feeds us, there must be some kind of 'hey you get an alpha preview, but don't speak badly of it' agreement. Well, and I hope you don't need to empty 30 round magazines from 10 feet way at each other with no visible effect. Hope that as well, having seen those fights, WH40k has higher hit rates.
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#276951 - 31 March, 2011 12:23 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Oh, goodies - so it IS going to be a "spend 90% of playing time moving the camera around" type of game, just my favourite! And even if the style of the UI is not final, you can already tell it will take up way too much screen space, especially with a full squad, which also adds to make zooming/rotating/tilting to get a specific enemy into view the core challenge of the game.
I also have a suspicion that once they actually implement weapon damage, throwing a grenade is going to be a suicide mission - slowly standing up, readying the grenade and finally hurling it in SloMo, while all enemies continue emptying their clips on your merc...
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#277740 - 11 April, 2011 10:27 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Informations from the Video commentary:
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4. You have to discover enemys on the map. In the lategame you may have an option to scan the minimap from an satellite.
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At least this part remains true to the original...
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#278145 - 18 April, 2011 06:57 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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looks shitty... I guess there is no hope for a good sequel at all...
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#287736 - 27 July, 2011 02:37 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Well after seeing several failed attempts at making a new jagged alliance game I was very skeptical of bitcomposer (taking away TBS did not really help). However after seeing the a three part trailer on gametrailers.com I am quite optimistic now, I think they will make a good game . For me jagged alliance was never just about TBS nor just the mercs; it was the overall experience that made the game so great. If Bitcomposer is able to give the same overall experience without TBS then that is okey for me.
And it would be nice of people stopped hating on the game and trashing it before we get a chance to play it, it is one thing to state that you are skeptical to the game and an other thing just trashing it as some members are doing (hating for the sake of hating). I am looking forward to this game and I hope I will not be disappointed.
Originally I was taking a similar stance (that it could turn out okay and to reserve judgement until its actually released) but their marketing efforts have managed to change my mind on it -- I've now basically written it off. I haven't been trashing it, but its gotten too hard to be optimistic about it. So I'm basically sitting back and seeing if they can somehow stop the train wreck (or at least fire whoever has been handling their public relations/marketing :rolleyes:).
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#288744 - 10 August, 2011 12:22 AM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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It ends for me at. "We've taken out the Turn Based system and replaced it with a plan and go."
It's like making you keep tapping forward in Need for Speed. Sure it's a new twist but your fingers won't be happy.
It's just JA = Turn Based. And what they are making is 7.62 2 or 5.56 or some other rifle caliber.
They're selling something under a popular name and hope the fans will jump on it like starving wolves on a steak.
But they hung it in front of us a little too long and most of us can smell it's rotten. This is NOT Jagged Alliance.
They've turned this into a 7.62 or E5, but both of these combined don't come close to JA in number of sales. They're so pathetic E5 has a wikipedia page that fits on a post-it, and 7.62 doesn't even have one.
They've turned a money maker into a piece of (#&*^$)
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#289562 - 21 August, 2011 12:41 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Well, it seems the game is now pushed back to Q1 2012 instead of October this year. http://www.jaggedalliance.com/en/2011/08/jagged-alliance-back-in-action-postponement-release/I'm keeping an optimistic view of this. With this amount of time, I hope they can add a turn based system as optional to satisfy everyone. At the very least they have the time to iron out the bugs. IMHO in a marketing point of view, this is a good move as they wont be competing with larger titles that will be released on Q4 2011.
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#289572 - 21 August, 2011 02:06 PM
Re: What is JA2 Reloaded
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Or... they could use that time to make the graphics even more super awesome! They could possibly even reach the standards of a year or two ago! Sorry, that was too easy to resist  .
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